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Tuesday, 30 June 2009

A guide for the perplexed: I have come to the conclusion that, in a free society, it is essential to allow for offensive speech. Otherwise you end up with the state deciding what is and isn’t “offensive,” and free speech, the pre-requisite for a free society, ends up in the dumper. That being said, Ontario does have laws on the books dealing with “hate speech,” and a young U of T jihadi named Salman Hossain who opined on the 'Net that Jews should be murdered en masse would appear to meet all the critera for criminal prosecution. However, as Stewart Bell reports in the National Post, authorities have decided not to charge the jihadi laddy:

A Toronto man who had posted messages on the Internet supporting terrorist attacks in Canada and the deportation of Jews will not face criminal charges, police said on Monday.
The Ontario Provincial Police hate crimes and extremism unit had been investigating Salman Hossain - whose writings included a call to kill Western soldiers "so that they think twice before entering foreign countries on behalf of their Jew masters" - for willfully promoting hatred toward the Jewish community, but the case was recently closed.
"The OPP reviewed the case with Crown counsel. As a result of that review, it was determined that insufficient grounds existed to support willful promotion of hatred charges," said Detective-Sergeant Brent Young.
Police would provide no further explanation. In Ontario, hate-crimes charges must be approved by the Attorney-General. The spokesman for the Ministry said the Attorney-General had not been asked to approve charges in this case.
"The Attorney-General did not reverse any decision. In fact, no direct request was made of the Attorney-General. In accordance with the long-standing procedure for such cases, the matter was carefully reviewed by counsel who determined a request to the Attorney-General was not appropriate in this case," Brendan Crawley said.
The Canadian Jewish Congress said it was "perplexed" by the decision. "We recognize that the bar is set high in terms of not only laying charges, but in terms of gaining a conviction," said Len Rudner, the CJC's Ontario regional director. "But I'm not a lawyer, so when I look at somebody talking about the charge that Western nations invade countries under the control of ‘Jew masters,' that concerns me."
Writing in online Internet forums, Mr. Hossain frequently singled out Jews, calling them derogatory names, claiming the Holocaust was "fictional" and once asking, "When do I get to shoot a few Jews down..."
In one posting, Mr. Hossain wrote, "Here's what I suggest we do ... just throw out the Jews (by religion or blood) out of the instruments of mainstream media, finance/banking, government/politics, and the intelligence/secret services."
"That's how the Muslims have done it in the past, especially when they were in power and glorious. Leave behind the token Jew here and there just to appear non-discriminatory.
"Then send the Jews packing on a different ship to their own territory or maybe the South Pole to live with the penguins. Do this before they claim we gonna do another ‘holocaust.' There's no Jew better than an exile Jew."…
Charming lad. Salt of the Earth. Well-spoken, too. Len Rudner may be “perplexed” at how such obviously hateful utterances failed to pass muster with the cops. Me? Not so much. It’s clear that had Hossain’s last name been, say, Keegstra or Ahenakew--or even Boisson--the full weight of the law would have been brought down to bear on him. But since he was neither white, nor a Nazi, nor a Christian, but is an Islamic Jew-hater, authorities decided to drop it lest they incur the acrimony of local Muslims, with whom they are endeavouring so hard to “build bridges.”
One would think that Len and his ilk would be able to see the ugly truth--that there’s a huge double standard in effect, and that Jews cannot count on authorities to silence a Jew-hater should he be Muslim. But knowing how Official Jewry thinks, I’m not expecting them to have a “eureka” moment and drop their tattered security blankie (state censorship) any time soon.

Posted by: scaramouche at 10:07 | link | comments (11)


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#1  30 June 2009 - 11:46
 
A source with first-hand knowledge of how provincial attorneys-general make this decision said the threshold changes with the political climate, and that there are "many more questions put to the AG than there are positive answers."

Oh it's the political climates fault. I see, Damn that Global Warming!.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1745085
Anonymous
#2  30 June 2009 - 12:52
 
 OK, so let some ballsy Canucki stand up, and swear an information in front of a JP. Ie., initiate a CCC prosecution privately.

Well? Bueller? Bueller???

/crickets
Anonymous
#3  30 June 2009 - 15:10
 
Babsy Hall and friends would never accept a complaint against this guy: wrong skin colour, background, and identity group.

"That's how the Muslims have done it in the past, especially when they were in power and glorious. Leave behind the token Jew here and there just to appear non-discriminatory."

I find this refreshingly honest - much better than "there is no compulsion in Islam" and "Islam is tolerant of others."
Anonymous
#4  30 June 2009 - 15:49
 
Where's Richard Warman when you need him....or the Lying Jackal?
Anonymous
#5  30 June 2009 - 16:59
 
I think that we should refer this to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. At least then we're guareented a 100% conviction rate.
Anonymous
#6  30 June 2009 - 20:25
 
If it were possible, I would agree with what you wrote 200%.

Salman Hossein belongs to that priviledged group of bigots called Moose Limbs.

Babs Hall would choke on her own vomit before she accused them of a hate crime.
Anonymous
#7  30 June 2009 - 23:22
 
not sure what you're saying about "official" Jewish community advocacy groups--that rather than asking for censorship they should make the counter arguments in the marketplace of ideas?
Anonymous
#8  01 July 2009 - 10:37
 
#7

What I'm saying is they have to knock it off with state censorship--it's killing us.
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#9  01 July 2009 - 11:25
 
I agree-whether it is an academic conference, a play or a private blog, the answer is to engage and make the counter arguments.  All that has been accomplished by the existing tactics is to help make the Left vociferously anti-Israel.
Anonymous
#10  01 July 2009 - 13:40
 
How about this...literally. Someone reprint the post, only taking out the reference to Jews and using Muslims in it's place. Then see how the censors respond.
Anonymous
#11  01 July 2009 - 16:01
 
I believe that anyone should be able to voice their opinion about anything or anybody. In the stupid west for some reason we only worry about offending the moslem throatcutters.
i guess I'll now offend some people and say that the throat cutters should be removed from the west in a western style jihad. As Winston Churchill would have put it , they're either at your knees or at your throat
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